Need Assistance: How to Remove / Clean 3M Adhesive

Street Guardian dashcams used to include a short length of string to assist with sticky pad removal. I think the idea was to saw through the VHB? I never had good results with it.
 
Street Guardian dashcams used to include a short length of string to assist with sticky pad removal. I think the idea was to saw through the VHB? I never had good results with it.
Agreed, Viofo used to do the same too back in the older days. I haven't had much luck with it either
 
Agreed, Viofo used to do the same too back in the older days. I haven't had much luck with it either
I had really good luck using dental floss to remove the A229 Plus from a windshield.
 
I must be a Luddite. 🙂 I use a trim tool, then my thumb to get the rest. If I have a bit of a sticky film left over, then I use one of the citrus cleaners, and that takes it right off.

When putting the sticky pad back on the GPS module, or whatever device, I do not use the full pad. I cut the pad into thirds, and put one third at the top, and at the bottom, leaving the middle bare. This makes the next removal of the unit and sticky pad more tolerable.
 
Street Guardian dashcams used to include a short length of string to assist with sticky pad removal. I think the idea was to saw through the VHB? I never had good results with it.

Most, probably all, of these dashcams use a sticky pad that is way more tacky than necessary. Manufacturers seem to think the dashcam/windshield connection needs to survive the G-Force of a rocket launch. 🙂

When I replace the pad on a GPS, I use a less sticky pad that I get at the local hardware store.
 
Most, probably all, of these dashcams use a sticky pad that is way more tacky than necessary. Manufacturers seem to think the dashcam/windshield connection needs to survive the G-Force of a rocket launch. 🙂
I think they need enough sticky pad area so that dashcams stay in place even if users put them on damp, dusty or oily glass.
 
I personally use a paint scraper, but only for non tinted windows. Works ok on the dotted areas too of the windscreen.

Other than that it's alcohol wipes and lots of blood sweat and tears

Lots and lots of patience too. You've got to be more careful on tint because any damage is permanent. Attempts to remove the rear tint over defrost lines is probably a very high / near certainty fail rate of taking the defrost lines with it and breaking the connection. Then, you're stuck trying to repaint the lines or buying a complete new windshield.....
 
I have noticed, after installing new cameras, if you look at the sticker from the outside, there is often a huge area of it that do not seem to be " engaged " so technically i assume systems could make do with much smaller sticky patches.
The T800 i have just moved around a little, it is clearly only sticking on with the outer parts of its huge sticker, there is like a bubble of air in the middle of it.

I just broke my windscreen trying to get the Vantrue 4G modem of it, doing what i have always done in the past decade, but this time it would seem my luck ran out, or the corner of a windscreen are weaker than the middle ( top ) of it.


BTW i have several timer experienced, having moved a camera, and even if the mount seem 100 % clean, even in cases also sanded it with 800 grit, well the sticky pad just let go of the mount after a short while, in those cases i have just put a little CA glue on the mount surface.
I have only once had a system let go of the glass, and this was after quite a few years of system changes in the same general area, and only half hearted cleanings in between, so i had to go full bore and deploy my Kent Speedy 500.
I have since learned that was a bit overkill, not long ago i removed some pad residue with the regular glass cleaner i have in the car.
 
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I have noticed, after installing new cameras, if you look at the sticker from the outside, there is often a huge area of it that do not seem to be " engaged " so technically i assume systems could make do with much smaller sticky patches.
The T800 i have just moved around a little, it is clearly only sticking on with the outer parts of its huge sticker, there is like a bubble of air in the middle of it.

I just broke my windscreen trying to get the Vantrue 4G modem of it, doing what i have always done in the past decade, but this time it would seem my luck ran out, or the corner of a windscreen are weaker than the middle ( top ) of it.


BTW i have several timer experienced, having moved a camera, and even if the mount seem 100 % clean, even in cases also sanded it with 800 grit, well the sticky pad just let go of the mount after a short while, in those cases i have just put a little CA glue on the mount surface.
I have only once had a system let go of the glass, and this was after quite a few years of system changes in the same general area, and only half hearted cleanings in between, so i had to go full bore and deploy my Kent Speedy 500.
I have since learned that was a bit overkill, not long ago i removed some pad residue with the regular glass cleaner i have in the car.

After removing the unit attached to the mount:

1. Take a heat gun and in circular motions warm up the windshield without staying in one spot too long.
2. No Heat Gun? Use fishing line to saw back and forth.
3. Gently pull the mount away from the windshield and slowly work your way until it has been fully loosened.
4. Clean up any goop

Doing this right is time consuming. You don't want the dashcam to fall off during normal driving, and thus the removal process is tedious (not easy).
 
After removing the unit attached to the mount:

1. Take a heat gun and in circular motions warm up the windshield without staying in one spot too long.
2. No Heat Gun? Use fishing line to saw back and forth.
3. Gently pull the mount away from the windshield and slowly work your way until it has been fully loosened.
4. Clean up any goop

Doing this right is time consuming. You don't want the dashcam to fall off during normal driving, and thus the removal process is tedious (not easy).
Static stickers are the way to go.
Much cleaner and faster solution.
No risk of damaging anything either.
 
Static stickers are the way to go.
Much cleaner and faster solution.
No risk of damaging anything either.

They aren't an ideal long term solution, although they make removal easy. I'm also not sure if windows are tinted, if it's recommended to use static stickers over a protracted period.
 
I just broke my windscreen trying to get the Vantrue 4G modem of it, doing what i have always done in the past decade, but this time it would seem my luck ran out, or the corner of a windscreen are weaker than the middle ( top ) of it.
I feel your pain, you are correct that the edges of the windshield are weak. A couple years ago I replaced the windshield wiper mechanism in our car which is directly below the glass. I was sooooooo careful knowing full well that it's delicate and not to make contact anywhere near the edge . I had to release plastic cover clips and remove sheetmetal bolts directly under the glass. I successfully installed the new mechanism and declared victory. The next morning there was a HUGE CRACK spreading from the edge near where I was working 😡
 
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Static stickers are the way to go.
Much cleaner and faster solution.
No risk of damaging anything either.
I'm warming up to the static stickers. I've been using them on large Vantrue cameras with excellent success. The only downside is you can't use them over Frits.
 
Just my two pennies re removing the 3M pads (or anything similar, i.e glass mirror mounting pads):

– Use thin Fishing Wire to 'saw' through the mounting pad. Wrapping the ends around your two forefingers (possibly wearing thin gloves if more comfortable), cut through the pad using a back and forth sawing motion. Ideally, try to make the 'cut' in the pad depth as close to the windscreen as possible to reduce the amount of left material/residue, but this may be dependent on your working angle. The great benefit of removing the mount in this way is it totally avoids putting any stress or force on the windscreen when otherwise trying to 'pull' off the 3m pad and camera mount...It's also just easy and pretty quick.

– Any 3M material or residue of reasonable size, pick off by hand, rolling thumb, etc...Doesn't have to be perfect, just the larger or easy to remove areas...

– Use a Citrus based 'sticky/glue/gunk' remover. Spray or dab on with cloth, as wet as you can get it whilst removing any excess before it runs down the windscreen/glass. LEAVE for at least 5-10mins. Repeat. Once the remaining residue has had a good time to soak, attempt to start picking or scraping away. I often use my finger nails, but sometimes will use a very fine plastic scraper (ideally with a bit of flex, soft edge) and sometimes carefully with a scalpel blade, really depends on the situation, working room etc. This is the laborious phase and may need to be repeated numerous times before most if not all the remaining residue material is removed. Just have to go steady – and not get impatient, rush and potentially cause any damage – I know, we've all done it!

As I say, most Citrus based removers will work with this residue removal. I've had decent success with this De-Solv-it brand here in Australia across a number of related uses –

Mineral Turpentine can work OK as well, as it will break down the oil in the adhesive. Big downside to Turps though is the smell – using in a car, it's going to smell like a paint store for the next month!

I would advise NOT using anything 'stronger' or chemical based – typically Acetone – especially if any plastic surfaces are concerned/nearby, which can be potentially tarnished or worse. For that matter, keep away from any important paint surfaces too! Ask me how I know – years back I once found the paint coming off on my cloth as I was removing some sticky residue on the inside of my car door whilst installing some wiring for a upgraded audio system 😬 Fortunately, by the luck of the gods, the removed trim panels covered the damaged area. Lesson learnt!
This was the stuff – to be fair, like most products, it did say test on an inconspicuous area before using..!😳

– Once all the remaining foam residue has been removed, even if looking reasonably clear visually, I would wipe over the whole area with some IsoPropyl. Spray on and wipe off with a paper towel and after a repeat with a clean microfibre cloth. This should remove any traces of final residue, as well as prep the area clean for any future re-mounting.
Can also use pre-soaked wipes – I often use these for a variety of similar purposes. Great for removing fingerprints from your glass also!😉
(Zeiss also do another version intended for electronic/smart devices – not much difference, though I notice the solution evaporates much quicker)
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I'm warming up to the static stickers. I've been using them on large Vantrue cameras with excellent success. The only downside is you can't use them over Frits.
I can't make my mind up on these myself...

I have tint film on my rear window and need to mount a new install – I'm reasonably happy/convinced to mount direct onto the film as it's well bonded and was done by the official dealer when the car was supplied new...However, my main area of concern is come the time of any future Removal....Will the tint film be damaged etc etc...

The Static Stickers make some sense in this scenario...though I wasn't sure just how well they would make their bond to the film...? I'm also not mad on the visual 'edges' of static stickers showing...Perhaps cutting them down and reducing size may help a little...Also not sure how much the tint will disguise the presence of the clear sticker or, on the other hand, highlight it...?!
 
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I'm reading that people have successfully removed 3M adhesive from tint so I would thing there would be no problem removing static stickers.
 
Why would you say that?
I had them mounted since years and no issues at all.

Same here, never an issue with the static film. I have placed dashcams and other items directly over the defroster wires, and several years later, still no issue.

What I do to get a little extra life out of the static film, in the event I need to temporarily remove the dashcam for some reason. I only remove the backing that goes to the windscreen. I leave the other backing on and attach the dashcam to it. If I need to remove the dashcam for some reason, then I simply unpeel the backing and off comes the dashcam. Now, I have the original static sheet, still available for a second use.
 
Just my two pennies re removing the 3M pads (or anything similar, i.e glass mirror mounting pads):

– Use thin Fishing Wire to 'saw' through the mounting pad. Wrapping the ends around your two forefingers (possibly wearing thin gloves if more comfortable), cut through the pad using a back and forth sawing motion. Ideally, try to make the 'cut' in the pad depth as close to the windscreen as possible to reduce the amount of left material/residue, but this may be dependent on your working angle. The great benefit of removing the mount in this way is it totally avoids putting any stress or force on the windscreen when otherwise trying to 'pull' off the 3m pad and camera mount...It's also just easy and pretty quick.

– Any 3M material or residue of reasonable size, pick off by hand, rolling thumb, etc...Doesn't have to be perfect, just the larger or easy to remove areas...

Use a Citrus based 'sticky/glue/gunk' remover. Spray or dab on with cloth, as wet as you can get it whilst removing any excess before it runs down the windscreen/glass. LEAVE for at least 5-10mins. Repeat. Once the remaining residue has had a good time to soak, attempt to start picking or scraping away. I often use my finger nails, but sometimes will use a very fine plastic scraper (ideally with a bit of flex, soft edge) and sometimes carefully with a scalpel blade, really depends on the situation, working room etc. This is the laborious phase and may need to be repeated numerous times before most if not all the remaining residue material is removed. Just have to go steady – and not get impatient, rush and potentially cause any damage – I know, we've all done it!

As I say, most Citrus based removers will work with this residue removal. I've had decent success with this De-Solv-it brand here in Australia across a number of related uses –

Citrus-based cleaners have always worked for me, and very quickly. They do tend to leave a slightly oily film afterwards, but glass cleaner or alcohol wipes take care of that.
 
Perhaps cutting them down and reducing size may help a little
I usually cut them in half.
Never had any issues, even with heavier dashcams.
The Static Stickers make some sense in this scenario...though I wasn't sure just how well they would make their bond to the film...?
Just give it a try before you stick the 3m VHB to the tint.
I do have another solution for mounting the rear camera:
 
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